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horrible calling from blue!!!


Question
i just played in a game with three ASA officials on the field and 1 ASA official keeping the book. While we were playing our game the official keeping the book noticed that the pitcher from the other team was not even on the roster. and they had batted out of order SIX i say again SIX(6) batters that inning and through out the game and the pitcher had been batting the whole game too. The umpire behind the plate only gave us one out for it and when the words started flying he called the game on account of the people arguing. I could care less about the game being called but i want to know something. For every bater that batted ist should be an out, correct and the blue said that it is our responsibilities to catch the proble so for us not catching it he was playing on. When the batted out of order the whole game from the first inning on the managed to score 17 runs. Should they or should they not be out for every batter batting out of order?

Answer
Hi Brandon,

I'm going to be gentle on you, yet tell you how it is. I can see you are upset.  You are absolutely wrong w/ your subject title and while I have the option of changing it I'm going to leave it alone as more people will probably read this.

Some of the worst problems I've seen on the field happen when the umpires know the rules and the players don't.  There's no discussing w/ player's going crazy and for the wrong reasons, no knowledge of the rule.

Ok 3 umpires and a scorer. must have been a tournament or a league "special game" or just a great expensive league.  I have done, many, many, many tournies from qualifiers to states (as an umpire and UIC) and nationals as an umpire and I have never seen it where the umpire or the scorer doesn't exchange line-ups.  That's for a reason, each team should keep a book.  If you keep a book, and every team should, you should know who's batting where because the player's #s are required on the lineup card.

By RULE, BOO (batting out of order) is an appeal by the defense.  The umpire can't tell you, the scorer can't tell you.  It is your team's responsibility to keep track of the other teams batters.  If you miss it and there's a pitch to the next batter, it's too late..by RULE.  That BOO is now legal, doesn't matter if it's 1 or 10.  When you catch 1 you get the penalty for that 1 not all the others that came before it.

It's you team's fault that 6 BOOs that inning or for the entire game, no one else's.  If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the your coach or the person who was supposed to keep the book.  If you don't keep a book, too bad you need to, it's pretty basic even for the lowest classed teams.

As far as an ineligible player, protest the player to the hp umpire, we keep playing and the protest committee decides.  No reason to get excited about that one.  Either you later win the game by forfeit or they're ok.

Mark

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