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Weever vs. Isosceles

2016/7/22 9:23:38


Question
I read a manual by a firearms instructor who stated that Isosceles is a superior tactical firearms stance because it allows for a full 360 degree radius of shooting.  How is that possible?  I've never seen a demonstation of this so I'm curious to learn more about it.  Do you have any additional information?

Answer
John,

At one time the hot topic for debate was "which stance?"  FBI, Weaver, Iscosceles, Modified Weaver, Reverse Weaver, etc. etc.?

Then training began to more resemble reality (which itself began to be captured on tape).  From my own observation, if I stand and draw at the buzzer, I'll always stand in Weaver.  Why?  Because it places my body in the same position I'm in if I box/spar/fight, and it just seems natural.

On the other hand, if you ever see footage of someone who draws in response to being startled and is going to stand and deliver, startle response will put someone in an isosceles stance 99+ times out of a hundred - it doesn't matter what you mean to do, this is in all likelihood what you will do.

The truth is, however, that you'll probably never stand and deliver in a self defense situation - you're feet will be moving, and probably rapidly - stance at that point will be a non-issue.

I like IDPA competition a lot because, if the courses are well-designed, you'll never be standing still, or if you are. you will have to be arching your body around cover - the scenario will dictate your "stance" as it may be, you won't get to choose.  That's a lot closer to the reality of it.

My boy noticed this phenomenon when we has seven years old.  He had earned a rank high enough to begin sparring in Karate.  He soon found that if he tried hard to maintain the stances that he worked so hard on in kata (forms), he got the stuffing kicked out of him.  Stance is dynamic in reality.  As far as "proper form" goes, it's largely ceremonial.

No one can or will turn 360 degrees without moving their feet, although your rotation at the hips will be more uniform right and left with isosceles.

In my humble opinion, which is born out of viewing innumerable hours of footage of those involved in gun fights, and my own experience in teaching and competition, those who have you spend a lot of time on stance, or argue for this stance over that one, are wasting your time.

When the flag flies you shoot where you are, however you're standing (or moving).  You won't care and won't remember afterwards where your feet or elbows were.

I hope this helps some.
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